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Hymns steal from love songs

Status: Anticipated in print · untested

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Claim (verbatim)

Medieval song traffic between sacred and secular ran through contrafacture — fitting new words to an existing melody — and pious history assumed the church lent and the tavern borrowed. This conjecture claims the measurable flow ran the other way: where a melody carries both a secular love song and a sacred text, the secular attestation is usually the earlier one, because devotional writers deliberately parasitized tunes already lodged in lay ears — the Marian song that sounds like last season's love song converts the listener's own memory — while secular songwriters had nothing to gain from church melodies their audience associated with penance. Sanctity borrowed prestige downward from pleasure. If this holds, the sacred lyric repertories of the thirteenth century are archaeologically layered on the profane ones, and shared melodies give us relative datings that texts alone cannot.

Prediction clause (verbatim)

Among melody concordances linking trouvere or troubadour secular songs with sacred contrafacta (Marian songs, Gautier de Coinci's miracles chansons), where both sides have datable earliest witnesses, the secular attestation will precede the sacred in at least 70 percent of decidable cases; primary clause: that 70 percent ordering rate over at least thirty concordance pairs.

Kill-dataset (verbatim)

Kill: the concordance tables in the Chansonnier database resources (Troubadour Melodies Database; the trouvere concordances in Tischler's editions and the Gautier de Coinci edition of Koenig-Chailley) with manuscript datings from JONAS.

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Provenance

Run: Fresh agent generation · model: claude-fable-5

Blind fresh claude-fable-5 subagent (max effort), single-Write discipline, 2026-07-09. W07, first wave of the operator-directed medieval-European block (W07-W10).

Novelty / leakage triage

anticipated in the literature — this exact test has never been run

Searched contrafactum directionality. Gautier de Coinci's deliberate re-texting of secular trouvère melodies for Marian songs is thoroughly documented, anticipating the sacred-borrows-from-secular direction, but no corpus-wide dating test of which attestation comes first across melody concordances has been run.

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